Wind power must stand on its own

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Congress is considering renewing subsidies to wind companies. It’s time to end wind subsidies.

The Bonneville Power Administration has been forced to pay for wind power that wasn’t needed due to adequate production of hydropower, which Washington state does not recognize as a renewable energy source. How asinine!

Power bills are rising in our state due to the requirement to increase use of “renewable” power, which water is not considered to be. Ridiculous!

Wind power has been given enough of a head start. It’s time for them to stand on existing towers or fold.

Jim Davison

Waitsburg

Comments

namvet60 9 months, 2 weeks ago

It's rather obvious that the ruling higher echelon has wind power representatives directing this discussion. There is no reason for hydroelectric not to be classified as green or renewable energy and should have been a long time ago.

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downhillracer 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Care to share some actual facts to back up your claim, or is this just the continued "I hate our government" rant?

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namvet60 9 months, 1 week ago

"The facts are": That hydroelectric is not classified as renewable energy!

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PearlY 9 months, 1 week ago

"The Bonneville Power Administration has been forced to pay for wind power that wasn’t needed due to adequate production of hydropower, which Washington state does not recognize as a renewable energy source."

"Power bills are rising in our state due to the requirement to increase use of “renewable” power, which water is not considered to be. "

Those are all statements of fact. If you disagree with them, why don't you back up your disagreement with your version of the facts? Is water/hydroelectric considered a renewable source for purposes of state law's demands for sourcing or not? Are bills rising or not? Was hydropower sufficient to meet our power needs or not? If so, then Mr. Davison's factual claims are correct. If not, then they're incorrect. But you cite no factual claim in opposition. Is this just more of your continued "Everyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" rant?

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namvet60 9 months, 1 week ago

Thank you PearlY - this person never states any facts but feeds negative comments needing someone to do there research for them. Some people apparently find there way to this website without the knowledge to look elsewhere?

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downhillracer 9 months, 1 week ago

I'm not the one making the claims.

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namvet60 9 months, 1 week ago

If you don't have any facts to rebut the claims - the claims stand as quoted. Very easy to understand even for you?

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PearlY 9 months, 1 week ago

You are making the claim that the writer is on an anti-government rant unless he backs up his statements of fact with citations to your approved sources, whatever those might be. Back it up.

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downhillracer 9 months, 1 week ago

So in other words, you both flunked debate. Not a big surprise.

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baldeagle 9 months, 1 week ago

downhillracer may not be aware that editors don't print URLs for sources since they do not have time to check all of them for accuracy.

Typing in "BPA pays windfarms" came up with several articles, though the story also appears in the UB so a search of their data base may work, as well.

Initiative 937 (text at: http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/initiatives/text/i937.pdf) removed water through existing dams as a renewable power source. It also set the mandatory increases in % of power which must be purchased by power companies through renewable sources, resulting in higher monthly consumer bills.

Sorry that you feel a statement of facts equal an anti-govt. rant.

Jim Davison

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downhillracer 9 months, 1 week ago

Sorry, but the U-B does in fact print URLs (see the one you shared, here - your link to a pdf document is in fact a URL). If your statements and positions are based in fact, then you can share the sources of data that helped you reach that conclusion. Pretty simple, actually. Otherwise, it's just another baseless opinion.

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baldeagle 9 months, 1 week ago

The print article is where the editor informed me they do not print the URL for the reason stated. Nothing was stated regarding this anonymous posting area.

It seems the argument is what you may be after rather than a valid source.

Jim Davison

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downhillracer 9 months, 1 week ago

No, you're avoiding sharing your sources. If not, then include a bibliography. Otherwise, that same baseless opinion part applies.

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baldeagle 9 months, 1 week ago

In case you missed it above, the source was shared for I-937 and a statement given as to how to find multiple sources for the BPA paying windfarms for not producing power. Apparently you missed the articles in past editions of the UB on these topics. But it doesn't seem that is really what you are after.

Jim Davison

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MyFamNews 9 months, 1 week ago

This is where our outrage should be directed. State Legislature 2013. Reclassify hydropower as renewable energy. House Joint Resolution 4200 proposes an amendment to the state Constitution to require hydroelectric generation be recognized as a renewable resource. It would help recapture our state’s competitive advantage of offering abundant, affordable, clean energy for manufacturers and consumers. Did Not Receive a Public Hearing in House Environment Committee.

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