Throw the progressive bums out

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I have read many letters lately filled with hateful, intolerant and mean-spirited statements. Most of them seem to be written by a small group of progressive liberal Democrats attempting to mislead the citizens of Walla Walla.

I suspect they are graduates of the Patty Murray-Jim McDermott Clown Institute, the institute that teaches liberals how to drive those little cars while wearing those big floppy shoes and chant slogans like “yes we can,” “Republicans hate the poor” and “if you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance.”

I can understand the desperation of the progressive liberals; they blindly support a president who has been exposed as a liar, a president who uses government agencies to harass and spy on American citizens and a president who continues to support and lie about a health-care system that is a harmful and dangerous embarrassment.

The local graduates of the Murray-McDermott Clown Institute must be experiencing the same emotions that Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun experienced while sitting in the Feuerbunker as the Russians entered Berlin from the East. Democrats have lied to the American people, continue to lie, blame others for their failures and attempt to change the subject when they are caught lying.

The American people deserve better. It is time to throw the progressive bums out and put American citizens back to work and regain our self respect.

Greg Sterling

Walla Walla

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namvet60 7 months, 1 week ago

Mr Sterling, you sure have a way with words. I watched a movie a while back entitled "Olympus has fallen" which has the sheer mindset of this Administration. Hopefully it will never happen, but we will be devastated if it does.

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The movie is a work of fiction. What planet do you live on?

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Is there a movie that is not fiction, dippsy doodle? Speaking of getting a life - you might try that and get some perspective!

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Igor 7 months, 1 week ago

I second Nam Vet. You truly do have a way with words. Great letter! Yes, you’re right about the progressive folks. Most truly are mean-spirited and intolerant. You might also add humorless. I’ve never met one that could take a joke. Just like our president, there’s no compromising with these people. It’s either their way or the highway.

Like most true believers, they refuse to consider the validity of any arguments that challenge their orthodoxies. A perfect example is climate change. If you dare challenge them on the topic they simply declare that “the science is settled” and refuse to even consider any arguments challenging their religious beliefs. And if you disagree with Obama’s agenda then you’re a racist.

Rather than engage in a civilized debate most, though not all, resort to name calling. They seem to believe that by dragging everyone down to the same level we’ll somehow achieve the utopian society of which they dream. When you mention that socialism has never worked anywhere it’s been tried their excuse is always, “Those guys just didn’t do it right.”

Fortunately for them, but unfortunately for the rest of us, they’ve found a new way to impose their draconian will on the rest of us through the environmental movement. Former Czech president Vaclav Klaus warns, “The largest threat to freedom, democracy, the market economy and prosperity is no longer socialism. It is, instead, the ambitious, arrogant, unscrupulous ideology of environmentalism.”

The things that have made our Country great are not all the cynical, counterproductive government programs designed to help the poor, but which, instead, keep them locked in poverty. Rather they’re our Constitution, property rights, the rule of law and entrepreneurship. Be prepared for an onslaught of name calling and criticism from the left. The ones they like to lay on me are “unoriginal” and “hateful.”

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 2 weeks ago

So WHAT, that you and NamVet are (supposedly) fought in Vietnam. There are thousands of Democrats (progressive/liberals), that, also, fought in Vietnam. IN FACT, you would check out the facts you would find out that the majority of the Republican politicans AVOIDED the draft; and the Democrats did serve. So you and NamVet continued harping about Democrats not being patriotic is a joke.

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chicoli 7 months ago

Well, we liberals chanted "yes we can"...and we did win not once but twice, my friend...and we did it despite all the incredibly massive negative campaign from the desperate, disjointed and running amok conservative leaders. I remmember republican vigils across the Country to help defeat Obama . I guess we prayed harder and God gave it to us, not once but twice. " The Democrats has it", He thundered!

Mr. Namvet, as always, confuses me when he refers to "Olympus has fallen", a movie in which the President is RESCUED...and then he comments : "Hopefully it will never happen, but we will be devastated if it does". What? Oh, I got it...when in doubt, like a good conservative, cover your a__ anyway! Well, lets see what's really going to happen in 2016! We're already praying for Hillary, my friends...and we always pray harder, indeed! I certainly do know who the bums are and will continue to be! Do I need to ask God? Naugh!!!

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namvet60 7 months ago

Question Paco - If you had watched the entire movie - YES - the President was rescued - BUT - how many countrymen were lost through the lax security that had taken over the White House. You throw in hypotheticals that are always short of the solution as usual!

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Why don't you try dealing with reality, instead of fictional movies. How about the Bush/Cheney administration sending thousands of our troops into Iraq. HOW MANY of our soldiers (countrymen) were lost and still coming home in body bags, because of LIE BY THE BUSH/CHENEY ADMINISTRATION. That is reality, NOT some stupid movie. You really need to get a "life."

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bj84711 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The healthcare embarrassment must be Bush's fault also. When in doubt blame Bush.

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

PeggyJoy - you will no doubt wake up some day and realize that the year is 2014. You will also realize that this president has let Iraq go back to the Al Quiada(sp) very quickly which I'm sure your happy about. You people that keep going back in time should try and look to the failing future that your President is leading this country into.

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downhillracer 6 months, 3 weeks ago

No, you can rest the blame for the return of Al-qaeda squarely at the Bush/Chenny disaster. We financed Iraq to fight Iran decades ago, Saddam despised Al-qaeda and kept them out of Iraq until we turned that country into a horror movie. Know your history.

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

downhillracer - I realize being a hermit is a rough life but let me enlighten you - it is Monday, January 6, 2014. Just to help bring you up to speed.

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Mr. namvet. Just admit your misinterpretations and stop throwing red herrings around to see if someone, equally dishonest as you, swallows them. Now GOMB!

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

paco - would you care to elaborate with specifics on the accusations of misinterpretations? Your overall accusations fit in with your meaningless lifestyle.

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

That's a favotite "red herring" of yours "...your meaningless lifestyle" which you repeatedly use on practicaly every posting you find yourself at a lost. It is so predictable and boring! You know nothing about the lifestyle of people commenting here.

I nevertheless believe that you have many positive things you're refusing to reveal in this social media. But you have the right to keep it this way and I respect you for having the guts to stick to your guns. I also think you're afraid of people saying nice things about you, therefore you become a de facto "prvocateur" to keep people distracted and away from your own real fellings. In summary you're a nice guy behind an armor.

Anyway, have a happy New Year, my friend!

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

paco - this is the Letters to the Editor and Opinion Section - it is NOT match.com. Thank you.

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Is this a confirmation of what I've just said? Your smart aleck answer is emblematic of someone who is terrifying of closeness...and subsconciously selected the right .com, just to clarify the fog even better! How wonderfull! Now, and for the final coda, you ought to review your past, to find it out doted with rejected opportunities that were wastefully sabotaged. This one is on the house...no charge, my friend, no charge!

And remember that if you keep doing what you're doing , you'll keep getting what you're getting...and that's sad my friend!

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

carcrazy - man that's perfect for paco - maybe he could join that twerking oriental doing his little dance with his stupid tune?

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Carcrazy/ Namvet, sorry I don't have Flash Player...in the mean time, why don't you guys Fox yourself...or each other?

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I can get loony toons with my grandkids but reading your babbling is for concern for your own mental health. You don't bother me because I can't read half of what you write with your miss spelled dialogue (if you can call it that).

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Miss spelled? I really don't know who this lady, Miss Spelled, is. Oh, you, clever you! You did really mean MISSPELLED, didn't you? Now, go back and finish your GED!

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carcrazy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

You really should watch that video Paco.

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I did check the STPM .com ( Society To Protect Moral) though. Sorry, car crazy, I don't watch porno, my friend. One of this days someone from the Police Department will knock at your door, right at the time when you're watching one of those dirty sites.

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carcrazy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Porno.....really? Guess you've never watched a music video. More jiberish from you. What Does The Fox Say?: [Chorus 1] "Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding! Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!" What the fox say?

"Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow! Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!" What the fox say?

"Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho! Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho! Hatee-hatee-hatee-ho!" What the fox say?

"Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff! Tchoff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff! Joff-tchoff-tchoffo-tchoffo-tchoff!" What the fox say?

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jubilado 7 months ago

Progressives don't blindly support everything the President does. The NSA is one example. By the way it's füherbunker.

You folks always have an eagle eye out for socialism. NamVet do you use VA healthcare? It is the closest thing that the U.S. has to a socialized system. The government owns the hospitals. The doctors and staff and paid by the government.
Users do not pay money into the system. That said, I personally believe that you and other veterans deserve every nickel of medical care you get for serving your country.

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namvet60 7 months ago

jubilado - for what it's worth I have Medicare & a Medicare supplement that if I do utilize any part of the VA facility my supplemental pays and I pick up the co-pay. Not everyone is on a free ride as the Progressives assume and you know what assuming gets you? Have a nice day.

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namvet60 7 months ago

I want to clarify my previous comment before someone jumps on and takes the comment out of context. I was not referring to my injured or fallen brothers and sisters when stating someone on a free ride. I totally believe that these troops should be taken care of to the best of the government's ability. I am an avid supporter of the Wounded Warriors and the Independence Fund for the military members that need the help and support.

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

The ONLY ones bitching about a FREE-RIDE are Republicans like yourself. I haven't heard or read ANY THING from Liberals about anyone in the military "getting a free ride."

Really..........what kind of world do you like in, NamVet. Just exactly were you in the Vietnam War? Some ship, or some office. I doubt very much, if you were ever, EVER confront by anyone in combat.

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

If I thought it was any of your ignorant business I would have sent you a copy of my DD-214. But by reading your comments, what have you done to benefit and improve your life and others ? Obviously it has been minimal due to your negativity.

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 2 weeks ago

You ADMIT to using Medicare & Medicare supplement, which was brought about those (socialist, commie, liberal, pinko unpatriotic Democrats)!!!!

You and your ilk are ALWAYS ranting about "those Demcrats" on spending, etc. B UT you are more then willing to use ANY/ALL the pgograms, that the Democrats brought about, that the Republicans foutht against, and even to this day want cut.

I tellyou exactly what I've told others like yourself.........IF YOU DON'T like the benefits you receive from these programs.............STOP USING THEM. REFUND THE GOVERNMENT, WHAT THEY HAVE SPENT ON YOU.

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chicoli 7 months ago

By the way it's fuhrerbunker, which is a German designed outhouse, the perfect place to read the Weekly Standard, which is the perfect paper for the moment of the...truth?

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 3 weeks ago

LOL The Weekly Standard and the National Review. Too bad Fox News in not in print. :)

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namvet60 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Just can't get enough of Fox News can you? Keep it up you might learn something.

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pdywgn 7 months ago

namvet60-Is it just me or have you succeeded in getting paco-1234 to have a complete non-sensible conversation with himself? Lol!

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chicoli 7 months ago

Paddy, you just cannot handle the TRUTH, my friend! The reality is we WON not once but twice, and you guys are furiously fuming about it. The incomprehensible, stupid strategy from your Republican leadership was to prevent Obama from succeeding on anything, even at the cost to the wellbeing of the American people. What did you expect from the American people...to vote for you guys? As you guys never learn, you're going to continue to do the same crap over and over. Nice formula for the GOP to succeed!

But the best is yet to come, my compasionate, conservative friend! Stay tune, Paddy!

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namvet60 7 months ago

Paco - did you happen to mention what country's military you served in? Were you the Pajama boy drinking hot chocolate advertising the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare)?

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chicoli 7 months ago

When I was in the US Air Force, in basic training (Lackland, Texas, 1958), you were an adorable, cute baby, either breast feeding or drinking hot chocolate yourself. I was, at the time, defending this Country so you could be taken care of, in freedom, by your loving parents.

Had I met you at the time I would've go: "cuchi cuchi cuchi" while stroking your split chin..." for your choco, one marshmallow or two?"

Stay tuned, Namvet! When Obamacare takes off as it should in 2014, there will be marshmallows for everyone...and plenty of freedom from the fear of a catastrophic medical event that could wiped out people's finances to the ruin. Now...for your hot chocolate, you want one lump or two?

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namvet60 7 months ago

I don't know what your drinking Paco or indulging in but you should go into Hiatus for the New Year.

Hint - I have been paying into Social Security for over 55 years and a little hoochi coo in 1958 would not have been one of your smartest ventures in your life!

But I must say that you are an asset to the U-B for helping people lose that extra pound or two that they put on over the Holiday. Your nauseating scenarios make one lose their appetite.

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chicoli 7 months ago

Well, well...I gathered you didn't like my posting, namvet! If you keep doing what you're doing, you'll keep getting what you're getting! Or as they say in Puerto Rico..." Al que no le gusta el caldo ( o el chocolate) le dan 2 tazas"...again, one lump or two?

Happy New Year!

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namvet60 7 months ago

That's OK - keep it up I've still got about 5 to go!

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Oh, that is just great, Nam! Insult Paco, when he tells you the truth, and you don't like it. Typical Republican. Hit them up side the head with the FACTS, and then they attack.

If you were in Vietnam fighting on the ground, which I doubt very much, was your head around any explosives? Seems you simply cannot comprehend the facts when give to you!

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bj84711 6 months, 3 weeks ago

This president has the ability to screw everything up on his own and with the help of the people who voted for him a SECOND time. Unbelievable.

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downhillracer 6 months, 3 weeks ago

He was re-elected by a significant majority, and though far from so-called 'perfect', has accomplished some amazing things for this country - in spite of the obscene attacks from the fringe and a do-nothing House.

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chicoli 6 months, 3 weeks ago

Another one who can not handle the truth. Get over it, select better leaders for your republican party; and, who knows I might vote for one of them! Now, have a cup of chocolate...one lump or two?

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jubilado 7 months ago

Namvet--It's the conservatives, and especially right-wing conservatives who complain about people being on a free ride--families on food stamps, kids getting free lunches at school, medicaid, welfare for single mothers with kids (cf. "welfare queens"),etc. Pete Peterson, Jim Demint, and the Koch brothers actively work to get rid of social security and medicare, which they apparently consider a free ride.

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namvet60 7 months ago

jubilado - you only mention 3 in which I would say that there are multiple idiots on both sides of the aisle. For the federal programs, being a conservative, I agree in cutting some of the programs but if you shaved the overall government by 75% and cut the fraud and waste from those mentioned programs there would be plenty of money to have for the needy with free enterprise and capitalism expanding and supporting them. We are as close as we will ever get to becoming a nanny state than ever since the start of the colonies.

An obese government will drag the country into Socialism and beyond.

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downhillracer 6 months, 3 weeks ago

I'm doubtful anyone who shouts "socialism' wouldn't understand it if it kicked them in the groin. He is no more a 'socialist' (or any of the other truly stupid concepts the fringe tries to sell), than he is a Muslim.

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jubilado 7 months ago

Namvet: There we go Namvet, or course there are multiple idiots on both sides. There are thoughtful people on both sides. You have discovered the true rule of politics, which is very few things are black and white, most the time the answer, at least the only workable answer, is a shade of grey. Politics in the art of the possible. The American people are getting sick of a do-nothing Congress and "my way or the highway" politics.

See, you can talk about matters of some substance. Most of the posts on the UB comments are mindless "so's yer old lady!" and back and forth "you're a commie!, you're a fascist!"

The sad part is that many people in the middle class or below support corporations and the wealthy dodging taxes and hiding trillions overseas, suppressing wages, sending jobs overseas, and making sure they have the best Congress money can buy. Instead of asking to make a more level playing field, too many when smacked on the head say "thank you 1%, hit me again."

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namvet60 7 months ago

Well jubilado - there you go - if you were to check the comments prior to some of mine you would understand why:

"Most of the posts on the UB comments are mindless "so's yer old lady!" and back and forth "you're a commie!, you're a fascist!""

which I see you like to bandy about your own terminology when referring to my posts.

Now - your only addressing the 1% which would lead to wealth redistribution which you wonder why they take there money off shore? I have yet to see the priority of entrepreneurship to make money to satisfy someone else's demands. This government is the one with the regulations and the high taxes causing the departure. As I stated by depleting the government by 75% and lowering the corporate and capital gains taxes would bring these 1%'ers back into the states and have much more effect. As it stands the higher the taxes go the more unemployment and welfare will increase.

That is one of the Liberal solutions is to throw money at a problem instead of finding a solution and fixing it.

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Really! What a pile of manure. They take their money OFF shore to hide it from paying their share of taxes. You have these upper 1% hiding millions in off shore accounts, so they don't have to pay one cent of taxes on it towards keeping this country up, which includes billions towards the military, that you seem love! Just think of all the guns, tanks, bombs, etc............that the military can't purchase! How about the millions of dollars these elite hide of school, that could be used to improve our bridges, highways, education, etc. And YOU want to complain about the poor wealthy having their money taken. Get a LIFE, Nam.

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PeggyJoy 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Since you claim to be so PATRIOTIC, what accomplishments and achievements and victories of Progressives, Liberals and Democrats over the last century, would you like to get rid of?

The GI Bill

Endangered Species Act

Environmental Laws

The Space Program

The Peace Corps

Americorps

The Civil Rights Movement

Earned Income Tax Credit

Family & Medical Leave Act

Consumer Product Safety Commission

Americans With Disabilities Act

Freedom of Information Act

Women's right to control their reproductive future

Allowing citizens to view their own credit records

The Internet

Balancing the federal budget

The Brady Bill (5-day wait on handgun purchases for background checks)

Lobbying Disclosure Act

"Motor-Voter" Act

The Voting Rights Act

Unemployment Insurance

Medicare/Medicaid

Food Stamps/WIC

Social Security

Peace between Israel and Egypt

Peace between Israel and Jordan

The Department of Education

The Department of Energy

The Department of Transportation

The Department of Housing and Urban Development

Labor Laws

The Marshall Plan

Winning World War II

Food Safety Laws

Workplace Safety Laws

The Tennessee Valley Project

The Civilian Conservation Corps

The Securites and Exchange Commission

Women's Right to Vote

Universal Public Education

National Weather Service

Product Labeling Laws

Truth in Advertising Laws

Morrill Land Grant Act

Rural Electrification

Public Universities

Bank Deposit Insurance (FDIC)

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

Public Broadcasting

Supporting the establishment of Israel

The United Nations

NATO

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downhillracer 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Do you ever offer an intelligent response based in well-researched facts versus your school-boy insults?

Simple answser: No.

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carcrazy 6 months, 2 weeks ago

My thoughts exactly namvet! After reading all of her posts here today I thought Paco had taken over her identity.

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namvet60 6 months, 2 weeks ago

Yep and even the spelling fits into the same category. I'm not sure if I'm to find my Medicare & supplement in the pharmacy and ingest internally or just pay for them and forget about it? She is also the one that spreads her propagandist literature in mailboxes around town. It's not big enough to even use for bird cage liner.

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nextgenpub 6 months, 1 week ago

Nobody actually "does" anything useful like break the AMC's control of the CPT codes so that we can have price comparison in healthcare. Until the conservatives start trying to solve problems with REAL conservative market driven solutions they won't do any better than the socialists.

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dogman12 6 months ago

The tension between citizens who orbit one or the other of the two poles of political belief is built into the DNA of the country. It will never be fully resolved in favor of one side. . Whichever pole they orbit, citizens hold a wide variety of beliefs as to the role of federal or state governments, market regulation, the validity of science, and individual freedoms, among many other issues.

I find it disappointing when one who orbits either pole tries to lump all of those who orbit the other pole together with one label. It is also disappointing to hear someone call for some version of "ultimate victory" for their pole. It is never going to happen. Believe me, the "elitist, Volvo driving, wine sipping surrender monkeys" are just as sick and tired of the "knuckle-dragging, obstructionist, fascist war-mongers" as vice-versa.

As far as I know "the golden rule:" to treat others as you would be treated, has not been improved upon, though it is often forgotten.

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