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Hey, don’t bully grandmas
Looks like a bunch of folks are bullying a grandma. Grandmothers such as Paula Deen should be honored and respected. Some may need to be put up with, but never bullied.
Terry L. Schoen
Well, Paula Dean is soooo accustomed to her southern "charm" she does not get it! A party for whites with black folks as servants, dressed in tuxedos with white bow ties? How southern! Menudo from La Casita for dinner? I doubt it either!
Nobody is bullying her. She's been kicked out of the pen altogether!
Buen provecho, yo'all!
English in America!
Congratulations! You decided to go benign this time. There is a part of you that is gentle and caring, and this is what you need to show, at least once in a while. I get the feeling that "English in America" as you put it, suggest that you just get a portion of a total thought. But is still bening and I appreciate it. Thanks!
Apparently that's all you can handle is partial thoughts but I see you understood those three little words very well!
When you go to Florida there are signs that read "Se habla Ingles". I guess you'll be alright there! Well, I believe these signs began in the 1500, right after Juan Ponce de Leon colonized Florida. That was a looooong time ago!
I meant to remind you, and in keeping with the above tongue and cheek (which you so much loved before), that back in the 1700s Father Junipero Serra introduced Spanish and religion in the whole of California but never said your 3 cute words, this time as " Spanish in America"...only. I believe this is High School stuff...which was what you could not handle at your GED level! Father Serra's incredible quest occurred way before the Declaration of Independence.
Paco - are you able to research a lot of the border battles when the borders were declared? Do you pledge allegiance to the US Flag? If you are retired from the Military do you back up to the pay window with your Spanish Armada insignias and cartel badges on your back (obviously no medals)? Your comments are fundamentally moronic and goes to show that what ever profession your in - your not qualified!
I really tried, my friend...I just give up! Now, go to El Sombrero and order mexican sushi...Oops, sorry! I meant to say CEVICHE! You'll feel a lot better.
I dine American!
"how southern"?? Better check yourself, Paco
ImJustSaying, I can read where you're going with your insensitive comment! You're are the Walla Walla "Paul Dean". You will do a very good show with blonde wig. What's cooking in your mind...only you know...but is already stinking!
The Paula Dean story is really unfortunate, and I hope she uses this incident as a learning experience to change and grow.
As a grandmother, she should have learned right versus wrong a long time ago, and she should definitely know what people find offensive.
Finally, people of a certain age do not get a free pass on bad behavior, and saying you're "old fashioned" is a lame excuse to spew hate.
Unless you were a kid growing up in the deep south in the 50's and 60's, you don't know what it was like. I believe she used the word back in the 60's. At that age, I'm sure she learned from her parents.
You make a very good point. The movies and documentaries I've seen that take place in the deep south, during that time, are frightening. People were harassed for being civil to African Americans. I hope she can turn this around and make it a positive lesson for all of us.
There is a balance here between being understanding of the culture in which she was raised and now deeming those attitudes to be utterly unacceptable. In my teens, my father told me that when he was a kid in Nebraska, the "eeny meeny miny moe" chant didn't end with catching tigers by the toe. I was shocked. My dad wasn't a racist, but he sure grew up in an exclusively white culture in the 1930s when there was no one to tell him there was anything wrong with that.
Look, I really want to give her a pass because Paula claims, swears- she only used the 'N' word one time, decades ago. She now makes a point that all people should be treated equal..........She went on and on. We all saw the headline news.
What I'm more interested in is this lawsuit against her, now. For bullying and demeaning of her staff in a restaurant. She is in the real world today. We all should be better than trashing other people! With this said, I still believe that
NO one should be hung out to dry before they have had there fair time in court.
I'll reserve my judgement and I think everyone should have- at least until then.
-Still, really one time only? How many of us have not used racist or demeaning words towards others different from ourselves? Everyone including me!. Shame on all of us......... Have we grown, however- and accepted that people are of many different backgrounds and that does not mean BAD!? Heard of diversity, people!?
We should all pause and really look at our inner selves and the treat others the way we REALLY want to be treated. Dignity, fairness, equality might be a good start.
I really like Paula. Hope She comes out of this mess better for her fans, but especially for herself and family. If not then society will remember her not for her folksy southern style, smile and delicious high cholesterol foods, but instead that she was a bitch. I for one am 'cautiously' hanging on for her. Naïve, perhaps.
Kevconpat, I rspect you for your honesty and for your loyalty to this lady. Nobody can blame you for being so straightforward and candid. You're not naive, you're yourself, plain authentic! Thanks for your interesting thoughts!
If someone burns your house down and rapes your sixteen-year old daughter, the statute of limitations is 10 years.
But call a man who held a gun to your head during a bank robbery a racial epithet when you tell your husband about it, and 45 years later you're still liable to have your life destroyed.
Paula Deen admitted her history during a deposition. She could have followed Bill Clinton's example of how to handle deposition testimony, and just lied.
And Paco, I believe you're from Puerto Rico, and you're old enough to be retired, so don't tell me you didn't grow up with the adults around you using the term of endearment that translates, 'little black one'. That's probably no longer PC there, now, but do you judge your abuelita as harshly as you do Paula Deen for using that term?
I don't use and I don't like hearing derogatory terms, especially not ones used against people who have suffered racial or religious oppression, but the idea of trying to destroy someone's life because many years ago, under stress, they used a term they grew up with, is frankly equally offensive.
This woman had a very difficult life and finally made a success for herself after many years of hardship and hard work. I hate to see that destroyed for a remark made after a traumatic episode decades ago that, if she's correct in remembering it was made TO HER HUSBAND, never harmed anybody. But our culture now seems to delight in tearing down success and expressing outrage.
So, your contention is that she used the word once, in private, to her husband, and on that basis every commercial organization that's had a deal with her has dropped her like a hot rock? I don't believe in pre-judging, but there may just be more here than meets the eye.
I'm not sure we, the public masses, have any basis for either condemning her or excusing her, but the folks that have made her wealthy seem to think she's poison now. Perhaps they know more than we do?
Yes, of course there may be a lot I don't know about this.
I haven't followed the story or listened to any of her interviews; all I know about her is what the Wikipedia entry on her says and what I've gleaned from watching a few of her shows and enjoying the way she pronounced "oil." I could practice for an hour and not be able to duplicate it.
I never lived in the South, but I remember driving through it when I was about nine, and having to ask my Dad which bathroom I should use because some were marked White and some were marked Colored and I didn't know what that meant. After being directed to the right bathroom, that earned me a summer of reading books about bigotry and collectivist thinking of all kinds ("Black Like Me," "Uncle Tom's Cabin," "Huckleberry Finn," "Treblinka," "Oliver Wiswell," "The Merchant of Venice,") and hours of "Dad" lectures about everything from statistics to how governments actively cultivate bigotry to suit their purposes. He also took me to see "Judgment at Nuremberg," which may have been well-intended but probably should be considered child abuse given its horrific content and my age.
Paula Deen grew up in a different world than what many of us understand. She's responsible for what she believes and how she acts today, but not for whether a word from her childhood popped out of her mouth when she was in her early 20s.
Some of the corportate sponsors have been trying to find a way to dump Ms Deen ever since her butter - diabetes flap. Some of her co-horts were upset with her and when the sponsors found a chance some jumped and then a lot more jumped on the bandwagon just for the bounce in publicity. It's to bad that sponsors of pro athletes don't dump there so called role models quicker when they get in trouble. The morals in this country are on a downhill run.
So, are you supporting her? I am until I hear otherwise, fair trail...if there is such a thing. Then I'll make a decision. Look, most of us on this BLOG were not born yesterday.
As for role models in sports........Most of those guys and gals are not what I would want for my grandkids role models.....we agree on this.
The best role model is the parent, period. Next, is fair and balanced education. After this is personal conviction including spiritual values and this is where so many good people have a hard time resolving what they believe and what others believe. Not easy, is it?
I support Paula Deen. If everyone thinks back 10, 15 and even longer years how many would be guilty of uttering a slur at one time or another. I don't care if you hit your thumb with a hammer or you are involved in an accident there are mutterings that will fall out of your mouth without giving a second thought. And I do agree the parents should be repsonsible for there childrens actions.
wow - must have been half asleep - better start using spell check more frequently.
Wake up, is dinner time!
You are such an aggrieved person, namvet, mostly looking for an oppening to introduce negativity and snarkiness. Moving to other topic I should point out that, by supporting Grandma Dean, I believe you also support southern cooking as American cooking. Southern cooking, by historical facts, is a combination of African American, Native American, French and Spanish cooking. In essence, my friend, the best example of the proverbial MELTING POT... in more than one way (sorry, just could not help punning for a smile or two) . As you only "dine" American, it is OK for you to eat Grandma Dean's cooking! Yummy! Don't you agree? Now, what's for dinner, gumbo, jambalaya or spanish southern rice? Buen provecho my friend!
Well you see paco, I did not state that I did not dine on ethnic foods but that all dining is tempered to the American culture. The only real ethnic dining would be some Native American and Cajun in Lousiana. If you want real ethnic cooking (Thai, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Mexican and European) dining you have to visit that country and visit the small towns for original authentic dining. But anytime that I can help you out just let me know and keep those compliments coming in.
How come African-Americans (or whatever is the "pc" name is now) can call each other the "N" word with no reprisals, and no one says squat about rappers using of the word.
If the meaning of this word is so offensive, why can some people use it and it is wrong for others?
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