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I believe the decision by the Supremes was a reasoned one. A Deeply religious family and their business model, 'Hobby Lobby'- for decades. Precedent was clearly in play here. It is clear now if you seek employment with Hobby Lobby, you will know these restrictions. This family business is not against all forms of birth control. Further more the vast majority of employees elsewhere are not covered under this edict, so simple buyer beware... those seeking employment. This affects Hobby Lobby and about 80 similarly aligned businesses throughout the US.
Actually, some of your long ago past posts were often contradictory. Whatever, sometimes we all, yes me too- say things and we swear later that we didn't. Hmmm, that is a human trait of all political persuasions.
Anyway, your conservative friends, and maybe your- as you put it, left leaning....how is that possible for you? You go out of your way to bash, belittle and dissect anyone's opinions that are to liberal/left leaning. Of course, what is liberal to you is anyone's guess. I often laugh, (but not at you)...I'm just perplexed how I get you in such a rub by just being, well me. I have never for once thought myself left leaning. I am centric and have a deep belief in fairness and equality. This I believe is pretty darn conservative.
The weekend is nearly here; throw back a cold bruski and enjoy this time with your wife. My husband and I will chill as well.
Namvet! I am surprised! I would have thought you of all people would have applauded our diverse neighborhoods successful efforts in ridding the city of one less meth/heroine drug house. Instead you attack this committed group of neighbors - calling us a 'cult and huddle' under a liberal umbrella. Wow........you sure have a way with words. Didn't know fighting meth and heroine was a liberal cult agenda. You don't really support illegal hard drugs, do you? Ps, love to meet your friends; see if any are mine. One never knows!
Nat Webb, Namvet: Grow some back bone! Quit living in an unrealistic secluded world of...."this is the way it is" and "this is the way it's always been"... WW has changed and will continue to do so. Mix it up a bit and stop complaining and whining. Be a part of a better community.You sound like little babies who can't get their way! It's pathetic. I love a good run with those who are not like - minded like my husband and I. We talk it out and listen, a lot!... and in the end we've become better neighbors for it. This neighborhood is a great example of how listening and working together, regardless of political persuasion or sexual orientation fostered respect of all our families, despite differences, and gave rise to a great celebration in what was desired for all of us, like a meth/heroine drug free neighborhood after years and years! It was pure hell. We all did it together because of our shared values. We are Demo's, Repub's and yes- Tea Party families........Liberal and Conservative with many shared values all on the same blocks! No kidding! Peace out-
I understand the emotions and yes, even I am wondering ...did he walk? Let's hold off an accusation of desertion until the final determination from the article 32 hearing.
Our mental health system is a disgrace; Is it possible that when someone goes on a shooting spree taking out innocent victims are they sane? I would have to believe most- perhaps all of those people have to have serious mental illness issues. Why else would one do such a horrific act?
No easy answers....
The legal uniting of two - to - no others. Live happily ever after through the reality of not so good days and others filled with accomplishment and joy- or find out , whoa it just isn't working and file for(divorce).
To me anyway, it's so simple.
Marriage in this society is not purely a religious ceremony; where do you get that notion from?
It can be and in your own words; have at it. It's one personal right. Because someone believes in a religious based male and female only marriage society this should not lend over reach power to impose a 'No Way' path for marriage to same sex couples, whom ironically are often religious in their tenants as well.
Human beings: our customs and our self imposed restraints make us an interesting species. Ooops, now I've opened up yet another can of worms!
-Enjoy the beautiful sunny weekend, married, single or searching.
I'll take a rest from this debate and leave it to others for a while.
PearlY, FYI and others interested:
Gallup poll 8-11, May 2014
Asked of American 18years and older: Are you in support of gay marriage; (Marriage Equality) The answers are quite interesting.
Quite a chasm here- In support...Democrats 74%. Republicans 30%
Aged 30 and under, 78%. Aged 65 and over, 42% .
Finally after a tally of random calls to those of voting age the results were 55% in favour to 42% not supporting. Margin of error +- 5%.
Last week, friends of ours married in a small civil ceremony at the downtown courthouse. Yes, they are a same-sex couple. After 29 years together they tied the knot. In attendance were two friends , their son and daughter in law and their only grandchild.
It doesn't get any better. Family.
Ask yourself PearlY, how in any way has this diminished your or anyone else's marriage?
In my opinion it has strengthend everyone's marriage and made our Republic all the more healthy and stable.
downhillracer, I actually put in my quip as sarcasm, but I wanted to see who might bite...
Years ago a well off winery owner told me as I was selling her expensive jewelry; ( I don't work in that jewelry store anymore) though it was a wonderful experience- how she was appalled at the west siders who were moving to Walla Walla or buying second homes here- and bringing with them there 'liberal way's'. Though she personally benefitted from their weekend forays to the 'wine country' she was afraid they would wreck the conservative values of people like herself. I asked her, well what did she mean by conservative values and she point blank said, " gay marriage, traffic and liberal democratic hogwash." What a mix, huh!
I thought it ironic that she couldn't get enough of their hard earned money being spent at her winery and was at the same time afraid of gay marriage and traffic. It seemed a far fetch to me, but then........
As a married gay man who moved here from Seattle I am actually sometimes lonely for ......the rain, NOT the traffic but yes the liberal values that have propelled the region into the economic success that it is. The diversity there I feel is very positive. Is the politics there always perfect? Far from it. Wow, just like here!
Sorry for the ruse.... My embellishment was to make a point and I think it did!
My husband and I love our home here, our friends, but have not lost our affection for the westside. Seattle's greater area is rich in culture and most of the time one really does not need an umbrella!
Thanks downhillracer for being a true Washingtonian!
Thank you Seattle and the booming ring cities of Puget Sound!
The thousands of weekend tourist who fly/drive here; Ea. WA. and in particular, Walla Walla leave us much appreciated dollars in our local economy.
We hate your traffic, weather, and liberal social views- but the money is great so we will put up, I mean welcome you. Love you- mean it.
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