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I see your point; I'd still like Chief Bieber or someone else with the actual numbers to weigh in.
You estimate that only 1.48% of low income kids end up in prison is the linchpin of your entire argument. Do you have any support for that figure? I expect that Chief Bieber would disagree with your estimate.
"So unless you're prepared to argue the world would have been better off without you, go easy on the criticism of our ancestors." - What an utterly silly, irrelevant and condescending "argument."
You might consider either not posting, or posting a substantive response, rather than this silly - and completely irrelevant - "response."
Talk about mental gymnastics!
The issues about "keeping your current health plan" weren't widely known while the House Republicans were having their little temper tantrum and were never mentioned during their hostage taking. If "keeping your current health plan" was the issue, once again, I'm sure Democrats would have been happy to negotiate about it.
You can try to spin it any way you want, but a minority of the House Republican caucus doesn't run the entire federal government. Perhaps you should take another look at the Constitution.
You (conveniently for the argument you were making) leave out the part that the Republicans wanting to defund Obamacare held the federal government hostage for sixteen days; while the Democrats wanting to defund the NSA's domestic spying simply voted on defunding the NSA - no hostage taking and no $2.5B adverse consequences for the nation.
If the Republicans had simply voted on defunding Obamacare, no one would have cared - it was and is their ongoing threat to do great damage to the country through a government shutdown or debt ceiling default that allows people to accurately assign blame.
As I recall, Obamacare was a central issue in the 2012 presidential election. Obama won. If Republicans wanted to improve the law, I'm sure they'd find willing Democratic negotiators. However, they are single-mindedly focussed on repeal, and that's simply not going to happen.
If there's a "holier than thou" attitude and sheer hypocrisy in all of this, it resides in the Republican caucus of the House of Representatives, who apparently feel that they have the right to substitute their preferences for the results of the last presidential election.
I'm not a big fan of what I consider to be overly generous public employee benefits. That said, I also have a problem with changing the rules retroactively simply because it turns out that the benefits granted are expensive. Working in a government job for decades based on one set of promises, only to have the government employer say, "just kidding" doesn't strike me as the way to treat anyone.
Your analogy, "To put the debt ceiling debacle into perspective it’s equivalent to a family getting together and deciding to buy a new car, new furniture and new iPhones for everyone" is completely wrong.
The correct analogy is, "To put the debt ceiling debacle into perspective it’s equivalent to a family getting together and deciding not to pay the mortgage, the utilities or to make the car payment."
The debt ceiling isn't about new spending, it's about paying for spending already incurred. Imagine what happens if my hypothetical family decides not to pay the mortgage, the car payments or the utilities? Now multiply that by billions.
How awful that a civil rights leader from the 60's is arrested protesting for immigration reform, one of several current civil rights issues.
What I don't understand about self-styled conservatives is their utter lack of empathy for others coupled with their total rejection of the concept of equal opportunity for all.
65 million (accepting your number) people voted for the guy who was clearly going to keep Obamacare. The government has been shut down by a very small portion of House Republicans, who don't think that what the voters have decided should be given much respect. But then Republicans these days seem to be mostly about reducing voting rights for anyone who isn't a Republican, so they may not view the last presidential election as valid because too many non-Republicans got to vote.
The CR passed by the Senate is already a huge win for the Tea Party, as it only authorizes spending at the post-sequestration level. There's no signed "blank check," it's more like a food stamp voucher.
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